Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 Movie Review

Badr Milligan

May 10, 2023

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 Movie Review

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Fresh out of the theater on opening night, Badr, Drew, and Blythe (Everything is Logistics) hop on the mics for a first-watch review of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3! (Spoilers start at 00:06:56)

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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 Movie Review

[00:00:00] Intro music plays

[00:00:21] Badr: Okay, how about we start with, while I get all settled, let's talk about the, uh, the trailers and the, the previews for the upcoming movies. According to my count, I have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. We got nine trailers. Here's, he's nine trailers. Yeah, we got nine trailers. I think when we watched Black Panther, we got had like, I remember saying 11 or 13.

[00:00:45] Badr: I remember being a lot. Geez. Damn. So lemme give you the, uh, the recap for the trailers. We got in our, in our viewing mission Impossible, uh, hunger Games. Uh, it was a long ass title, the Ball of Snake Wind and, and something like that. But we had a Hunger Game trailer. Grand. Turismo. Dune two Oppenheimer. We got a trailer for Transformers.

[00:01:03] Badr: Rise of the Beast. Ooh, little Mermaid, Indiana Jones. And, uh, the, the Marvels. Jeez. Yeah, we got a lot of jeez yees. We got a lot of yees.

[00:01:13] Drew: We got a lot Grand Turismo. Sounds like, looks the most fun besides Oppenheimer

[00:01:17] Blythe: Grand Temo. Is that really how you pronounce it?

[00:01:20] Drew: No, that's how I say it. Okay. I like Tara Masu cake, so that's might be Grand Tara Masu.

[00:01:27] Badr: I feel like a sports themed bar that specialize in race. Cars. Should have that. That should be like,

[00:01:32] Drew: and cakes. Race cakes. We'll call 'em race

[00:01:34] Badr: cakes. Here we're giving out. Free game. Stop Drew. That trailer I

[00:01:38] Drew: was like, sold. I was like, wait, this is PlayStation. And it

[00:01:41] Badr: says it's based on a true story. So I imagine maybe the true story part is that the company once held, I guess a competition to allow really good video game players to actually become race car drivers.

[00:01:51] Badr: I imagine that would be the true story. Are you gonna look up

[00:01:53] Drew: to see how it ends or just wait for the movie and see how they interpret it?

[00:01:57] Blythe: Another video game to movie adaptation. Mm-hmm. Or to show It looks good though.

[00:02:01] Badr: It it to Drew's point, it did look a lot of fun. Mm-hmm. It looked a lot, lot. I feel like David Harbor has now kind of become, is, is he kind of getting a little gimmick?

[00:02:09] Badr: Does he have a gimmick now? I don't know. Like, just funny burly guy, you know, like with the one-liners just like

[00:02:16] Drew: shot out, like just tired all

[00:02:18] Badr: the time. He is def that, that's just his natural look. Mm-hmm. Is the, he, he has the best bag under eye bags in Hollywood. He always looks tired. B Life. What about you?

[00:02:27] Badr: What was the uh, uh, the trailer that got you most hyped? I think Mission impossible

[00:02:30] Blythe: for sure.

[00:02:31] Drew: Hell yeah. Part one. Part one part is ridiculous. One of whatever this, they give us a whole movie and they're like part

[00:02:37] Blythe: one. But I think for so many things that we see, it's very clearly like they, they shot it on a stage or in front of the, you know, one of those big fancy television shooting screens.

[00:02:47] Blythe: Anytime you can get on location, it just looks so much more incredible. And, and that was the, the part that blew me away with that preview. Yeah.

[00:02:55] Badr: Mission Impossible. Dead reckoning. Part one. When it hit us with the part one, I was like, damn, this story and this movie's so big they need, uh, who knows? Uh, maybe two parts, three parts.

[00:03:05] Badr: But, um, I'm right there with you. I thought, I think right out the gate, that one being the first trailer, by the end of it, I, by the end of the ninth trailer, I was like, damn, I'm still thinking about how good that Mission Impossible trailer is, but for me, I've got, I, I think I'm a little tied between, no, I'm not really tied.

[00:03:22] Badr: Dune two has me so fucking hype cuz it reminded me how much I loved the first dune. And when the first dune ended and, you know, sitting in theater, I remember thinking like, how long do I have to wait for part two? Well now it's here. And it's like, shit, it's fucking here. Uh, so I'm excited for too

[00:03:39] Drew: Fucking Sand worms.

[00:03:42] Badr: The trailer basically shows like a ba a whole kind of scene, right? Like, it basically shows you the whole scene of him what appears to be riding his first, um, uh, what are they call worms? His first wave, bro.

[00:03:53] Drew: First wave into the new

[00:03:55] Badr: age, bro, if there's a scene where he says that, that'd be cool, but I feel like they showed you a whole scene and you're still like, oh, this is only not even a quarter of the movie.

[00:04:04] Badr: And I'm like, it just, it really grabbed my attention. My hair cost

[00:04:07] Drew: more than your house.

[00:04:08] Badr: Oh, a hundred percent. Y I feel like Grand Teresa Remo that trailer. It felt like it showed the whole movie. From like, beginning to end time me up. I wanna see it. Yeah. And I'm still like, damn, that looks like it's gonna be a lot of fun.

[00:04:19] Badr: Uh, but the, the movie, the trailer that I, I'd say ties for my interest, the Hunger Games, the, the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. I thought we was done with it. And you're telling me we're getting a

[00:04:30] Blythe: prequel? I had no idea this

[00:04:32] Drew: was even in the works. Oh, yeah. The, the book, the book came out, the book came out too long ago.

[00:04:36] Drew: I think the book came out two years ago. Oh, wow. Yeah. And um, the more you know, and then this focus is on, um,

[00:04:44] Badr: came out 20, you know, that's why it came out in fucking 2020 when the world was going to shit. I, I don't think. I definitely would've Perfect

[00:04:51] Drew: timing actually for that. Perfect timing. Am What's it about post-apocalyptic world?

[00:04:57] Drew: You're releasing your book during all this. I mean, why not

[00:05:02] Badr: Talk about timing. So what happens in that movie? Oh, people fight for resources like Toilet.

[00:05:08] Drew: We're gonna

[00:05:08] Badr: put that in there. But yeah, that trailer caught me by complete surprise to, to, to b Life's point. I, I was not expecting, I didn't know that a prequel was in the works.

[00:05:15] Badr: And then when I seen, um, help Me out Here, I, when I seen Oh boy Zendaya,

[00:05:19] Blythe: or

[00:05:20] Drew: he's talking about the dude from, um, he's talking about the dude from Game of Thrones and I'm drawing a bad blank, right? Peter?

[00:05:25] Badr: Peter, Peter. Oh, oh, oh. Drew gets all the props cuz he thought of it, of how he even having to look it up.

[00:05:31] Badr: I immediately, I thought you were still talking about

[00:05:32] Blythe: Dune, now you're talking about hugging games.

[00:05:34] Badr: Okay. Hunger Games. When I seen Peter Dinkle, I was like, oh shit. If Peter Dinkle is in it,

[00:05:39] Drew: I love how dramatic that they get with like his character. His character always has some sort of close up him looking

[00:05:45] Badr: up.

[00:05:45] Badr: He's always has his hand behind his back always.

[00:05:48] Drew: And he always has a drinking problem too. Or like a fidget problem. Yeah, for real. He always has to like, what's wrong with you? Oh, you're torn. You had a good life and you're torn. All right, cool. And then what, like, welcome to, uh, Thor number three. What is it?

[00:06:02] Drew: Okay. You're torn, you're war torn. You have no hands.

[00:06:06] Badr: Okay. And, uh, and he still put his hand behind his back for real. Okay. And Viola Davis is also in, in the, in the she That movie. Crazy. Viel Davis is already super fucking intense. You wanna make her more intense? Give her a blue eye, one

[00:06:20] Drew: blue eye, one blue eye and crazy like stringy hair.

[00:06:22] Drew: And then you're like, all right, go for

[00:06:24] Blythe: it. Have, did y'all ever see, uh, fel goes west. Yes. The crazy easy eye.

[00:06:31] Badr: So good. Yeah. So I, I'd I'd say those two. Um, B Life, I'm surprised you didn't say Indiana Jones. I was going

[00:06:37] Blythe: to, I was just waiting for my moment. Mm-hmm.

[00:06:39] Badr: I thought I gave you your moment. You said, well, you said if pick Mission Impossible,

[00:06:43] Blythe: the most impactful trailer for sure, because I've already talked about Indiana Jones on your show before, so I didn't wanna rehash it.

[00:06:49] Blythe: But if you would like to talk about it, let's go.

[00:06:52] Badr: Would you like to talk about Lord and Savior Harrison Ford? Okay, good. Warm up. I think we've given, uh, the listeners enough time to understand what they're about to get into, which is our, a very casual post movie. We, we, we hit the mics, uh, wait. It hasn't even been a full 30 minutes since we left the theaters.

[00:07:11] Badr: We hit the mics immediately after our first. Viewing of Guardians Galaxy, uh, catching it on Premier night, and we're on the mics. So we're about to enter a spoiler territory, and this is your fair warning. All right? If you haven't seen the movie, uh, not really sure what you're doing listening to this episode, unless you are just really excited to hear our voices and you're like, I'm starved for short boxed content.

[00:07:32] Badr: I don't give a fuck about spoilers, then the more the merrier. But we're about to get into spoiler territory, so this is your fair warning. Uh, going forward, we'll be talking about important plot points that might give away the movie, might spoil it, et cetera, et cetera. Here we go. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Okay. You guys know how like the start just cuz it's fresh in our minds.

[00:07:53] Badr: Let's go and talk about the, uh, I guess we normally start with post credit scenes, but I felt like these weren't that. Substantial. No, nothing about

[00:08:02] Drew: it was no. The, the, the, the first post credit

[00:08:04] Badr: scene was dope. True, true. Which, uh, the first end credit scene being a little scene or preview of the new team of the Gardens of Galaxy, which includes Rocket.

[00:08:15] Badr: Mm-hmm. Cosmo, a very older looking group, buff looking group, super buff looking group. Uh, Adam Warlock, who looks good in that, uh, costume, it had Lin. Mm-hmm. And I didn't catch the name of the little girl. Um, that was among like the, the jib JB Jib JB Friend. Friend, yeah, yeah, yeah. Friend jib. J uh, yeah. One of the, uh, the, uh, freed, uh, children, I guess joins the team.

[00:08:41] Badr: And we, so we got the preview that, like,

[00:08:43] Drew: that's not Moon Dragon is it, or not one if

[00:08:45] Badr: like, I don't know. But it looked like she had psychic powers. She's clearly got like some sort of powers. I think that's safe to say. So originally James Gunn had announced that he would've, um, that he had like another movie in mind like that, that a fourth guardian's movie could happen.

[00:09:00] Badr: But he had mentioned that like in 2017, but as the years progressed and we were getting closer to, uh, the date, I think he kind of finalized like, actually this is the last movie. And if I did do another Guardian's movie, it would be like using the characters or, you know, in other movies. And then he even mentioned like a, a possible side project of just Mantis and Drx.

[00:09:19] Badr: And even Dave Petista was like on board for that and was like, oh, I would definitely come back if they did something like that. Obviously, I, well, he later on went to say that Marvel, just that idea, never picked up Steam. I think at the moment it's clear to say like, this is the final Guardian's movie. We might get these characters in other cameos or, or films or maybe in, in future mc movies.

[00:09:38] Badr: J just outta curiosity, would you guys like to see. A, a separate kind of guardians trilogy base on these characters or this new team led by Rocket? Is that like something of interest you guys? Uh, yes.

[00:09:50] Drew: Uh, yes. I, I'd feel like I would definitely watch the, watch those movies to see exactly how far you can go.

[00:09:55] Drew: Hmm.

[00:09:56] Blythe: I would give it a shot, but I'm not exactly excited about the thought of it. I, I think this was such a good, just closeout ending. I, I, I just feel like we've been saying goodbye to these same Marvel characters for the last like, three years. I'm, I'm, I'm ready for the new direction, wherever Marvel is going into it.

[00:10:17] Blythe: Just it, so you mean this new team

[00:10:18] Drew: that they just created? Well, sure. That would go in a whole different direction.

[00:10:23] Blythe: I, I don't know what I want out of Marvel. I guess that's understandable. Uh, because I, I don't know if I should still care about these characters. I don't know if I should be trying to learn about the new characters.

[00:10:34] Blythe: I don't know if all of this is intertwined. I don't know if any of it matters because of the multiverse. I think I'm just kind of, I feel stuck, but I enjoyed this

[00:10:42] Badr: movie a lot. Yeah. And maybe that's the most important thing, like, you know, did you enjoy the process, the ride of this whole movie? Uh, cuz I'm in the same boat, I thought the ending for this movie was such a perfect sendoff.

[00:10:52] Badr: Like, there really wasn't, I think anymore they could explore. They really like, explore these characters and like, what made them tick and overcoming like, you know, the, because I mean, what, what brought them in? What brought them together initially was, you know, they all had trauma. They all had like a sh a rough pass, a shady pass.

[00:11:09] Badr: And they were dealing with it, um, in the same way, you know, being bounty hunters and violence and all that. And I felt, and I felt like by the end of this movie, like there was such a beautiful ending to every character, or like them like addressing like, like, like mantis. Like I thought that was a beautiful set now for her to like go solo.

[00:11:28] Badr: And I guess, you know, there's a sense to me that's like a little curious, like, oh, what happens with Mantis? What goes on with Gamora? But at the same time, I don't think I feel compelled enough now. To like continue seeing that adventure. I thought the sendoff to this was, was so good. Drew, what'd you think about the, the ending and them, um, kind of disbanding, kind of felt a little bit forced.

[00:11:47] Drew: You spent this entire movie saving your friend, and then you're like, all right, time to go. Yeah. Like this whole, like, that's what I'm saying. The whole movie. I was like, um, I was like, oh, alright. There's like, no, the, the whole point of this whole movie is they're trying to save Rocket, did all this stuff.

[00:12:04] Drew: Then you basically just rescue like all the, like, you basically rescue a whole planet and it's like, well, I'm gonna go hang out with my grandfather.

[00:12:12] Badr: What? They didn't even take a shower. They were like, still kind of like stinky. Like, all right man. I'm good to go. We good? We good? All right. Bet sounds good.

[00:12:19] Drew: He's like, I'm so, I'm tired. Like, I was like, what? What? You're just gonna go to Earth and like that, like try to live a normal life. Get the fuck outta here because cuz

[00:12:28] Blythe: Quill did make that point to Kamora. He said something along the lines of that this used to be your family. This used to be your thing.

[00:12:34] Blythe: Yeah. You used to work it all out

[00:12:35] Drew: with us.

[00:12:36] Badr: And now he is like, all right. Well, yeah. I mean, I, I chalk it up to the literal, like, end of the series, right? It's like, look, either we're gonna give you an ending like this or leave as a cliffhanger. And I'm, I'm okay with them, uh, ending it the way it is. But I do, I do see your point here.

[00:12:49] Badr: Well, I, I did

[00:12:50] Blythe: hear a comment that, that I agree with a lot that it said it kind of left everything open-ended. So Marvel or somebody else can come in and, and do something with these

[00:12:58] Badr: characters. Okay. That's cool. That's cool. I would've,

[00:13:01] Drew: I would've rather have one of them pass away. Hmm. If Star Lord would've died, I would've been way happier with the story.

[00:13:11] Drew: Not because I want 'em to die, but it would've been like, okay, this makes sense of like why they need to go their separate ways.

[00:13:18] Badr: I'm glad you bring that up cuz I, I mentioned that sub life that. It felt like the entire marketing, the, the entire like, uh, kind of zeitgeist for, for this movie was everyone predicting that rocket was gonna die.

[00:13:31] Badr: This will be the saddest you ever worn. Uh, you know, A C G I, um, uh, raccoon. Or it might be Star like, you know, it felt like someone was gonna die. I think I went into it thinking like, someone's gonna die. It's probably gonna be Rocket. I think we even joked about it prior to walking through the theater.

[00:13:45] Badr: Yeah. That's why with Riot. And they, and they did a lot of fake outs for deaths. Like at, at one moment it felt like Drex was probably gonna kick the can. Um, uh, another moment, like when, when, uh, Nebula goes into the ship and she's steering it, I'm like, okay, she's gonna be the hero, uh, you know, and sacrifice herself and ripped Gru's

[00:14:02] Drew: head off.

[00:14:03] Drew: Yeah. Right. Like, they're so, he was a spider head gro that was like, that, that like took me off. I was like, whoa.

[00:14:09] Badr: There was just a lot of fake outs. They subverted to me. They subverted a lot of expectations in this movie. But if it looked like you were gonna say something on the topic of, of, you know, a character dying or

[00:14:18] Blythe: something.

[00:14:18] Blythe: Well, if you think about it, Disney obviously owns Star Wars and Marvel, and they get a lot of comparisons now for a lot of the creative direction. But if you think about it, Carrie Fisher almost died just exactly like Chris Pretz character. Hmm. Frozen in space.

[00:14:35] Drew: Then he was saying, then they forced saved by, of course.

[00:14:37] Drew: Dude,

[00:14:37] Badr: I wanna lie. That was such a weird fucking scene star lord. Like, fucking bloating. You know, I, I think that is how you die, like when you die in space like that. Oh, I don't know. Died in space. So like, I can't deny or confirm. Yeah. But I think that is like the physical process. Like you feel, I

[00:14:55] knew

[00:14:55] Blythe: he wasn't gonna die when they did that to his face.

[00:14:58] Blythe: Yeah.

[00:14:58] Badr: It was way too funny. I was like, okay, alright. It was way too funny. I love when, when he gets saved, he look cool. I love when he gets saved. Like his face is still really puffy and shit. But the whole time, I, I, I, I won't lie, I kind of, uh, it's kind of took me out of it just for a little, cuz the whole time I'm thinking like, so he's freezing to death, which makes sense.

[00:15:16] Badr: But there's that giant fucking fire explosion behind him. It ain't gonna like warm him up just a little bit. And when

[00:15:22] Blythe: you land on the ship, do you immediately have oxygen? Because there was, it wasn't pressurized at all. I noticed that. That's not what they did in the Matt Damon movie. Oh,

[00:15:34] Badr: that's funny. Um, yeah, they needed whoever wrote or double checked the science and math and the Martian to, you know, look at that last ending.

[00:15:42] Badr: But yeah, I'll give 'em a pass last I'm movie and see who

[00:15:44] Drew: the NASA consulting team is. Like, you know how it says consulting team assistant to Mr. Pratt. I'd like go physics department. I'm like, oh, okay. This is

[00:15:55] Badr: the guy that dude graduated from, Duval County. Special thanks

[00:15:59] Drew: to professor three, Pete.

[00:16:02] Badr: Okay.

[00:16:03] Badr: Second, uh, uh, just quickly going through the um, uh, end credit scene, second end credit scene. Um, Peter Quill having, uh, eating a very loud e loudly eating a bowl of cereal with his grandpa. Um, who by the way, his grandpa had a, I don't, did you see the newspaper or, or said it was like, yeah. Ca Bacon. Kevin Bacon abducted Tells all, which is a callback now that I think about it, is a callback to the Christmas special cuz they, which is basically

[00:16:26] Drew: your, uh, drax and mm-hmm.

[00:16:29] Badr: Mantis, uh, side project. Yeah. Movie. Which I won't lie, I'm okay not having a Drs and Manis side. No, we don't need that. We definitely don't. I'm glad that that idea got scraped. Mm-hmm. Wow. On the topic of, of that end credit scene, I damn near teared up pretty hard when he got that hug from his grandpa at the end when Peter was like, I think, and I was like, oh, this is so cliche.

[00:16:49] Badr: I think I'm at the wrong address. No baby. He's here. How many times have you seen that done in a movie? I'm like, all right, we get it a hundred times. But that hug was so good. God damn, there was so many moments. I was like, so many hugs in this movie. Oh, this movie was pro hug all day. Matter of fact, I wanna read you a, um, a headline.

[00:17:10] Badr: So I typed in Garden's Galaxy three on, on Google, and I, I looked at what the top headlines were for some of these bigger, um, you know, legacy media companies. And there's a few I wanna mention, uh, cuz Drew, you brought up a perfect thing. So NPRs review headline was, review Gardens Galaxy Volume Three puts the audience through a bad breakup.

[00:17:29] Badr: Wall Street Journal, headline, guardians of the Galaxy Volume Three, review Story and Story of the Space Raccoon. I thought that was pretty cool. New York Times, uh, headline, guardians of the Galaxy Volume Three Review, raccoon Tears, and a Final Mixtape. Actually, that one might be my favorite. I brought up all those headlines, and I meant to just read that the current imd uh, uh, rotten Tomato score when I checked this morning was at like 79%.

[00:17:53] Drew: It's like, check. I don't know how the Dow Jones work, but I know how the tomato, and I know how that credit score worked. You're like, Ugh, ah,

[00:18:02] Badr: the whole time I'm watching this movie, and I, I thought about that score. I'm like, well, it's really early. It's like Thursday. We probably won't see like the, that score cemented until the weekend.

[00:18:11] Badr: But the whole time I'm watching this movie, I'm like, this is not a 79% movie. This is one of those movies that I think audience scores are going to be like perfect, and critics are gonna be like, you know, not perfect, but like a b plus. But I bring up Rotten Tomatoes because the critic one-liner was, uh, was this quote, a galactic group hug that might squeeze a little too tight on the heartstrings.

[00:18:35] Badr: The Final Guardians of Galaxy is a loving hurrah for the MCU U'S most rag tag family. Obviously now having seen the movie. Perfect. I think that is, that is perfect. And Drew, you mentioned like there's so many hugs in this movie. I think I heard you guys, uh, I think life, maybe it was you or maybe Drew, but maybe all of us were talking about moments that we were about to cry in or moments We did cry in life.

[00:18:57] Badr: Who

[00:18:57] Blythe: said what? At least six? Yeah, there was the, the moment. Okay, let me, let me think of a few. Okay, so the baby raccoons, first of all,

[00:19:04] Badr: um, oh God, this'll be the most emotional anyone gets seeing a raccoon, carious babies. Cuz in the real life you'd be like, what the fuck?

[00:19:13] Blythe: I think, uh, Quill, looking at Gamora, that first initial conversation between them that tugged at my heartstrings.

[00:19:19] Blythe: That was hard for the two of them. Oh, what you're

[00:19:21] Drew: like, what are they gonna

[00:19:22] Badr: figure it out? There's still signs in there. You can tell Uhhuh.

[00:19:28] Blythe: I'm trying to think of the other ones. Help me. Um,

[00:19:31] Drew: oh, any of the animals. Like any of those animals, my God. Where they're just laying down talking.

[00:19:35] Blythe: Oh, the reunion between Lila and, and, and Rocket.

[00:19:38] Drew: And Rocket. Oh. When she puts his hand on his chest and she's like, NA, come on man. Stop. All of his

[00:19:45] Badr: friends animals were obnoxiously adorable. That bunny

[00:19:50] Drew: didn't even have a face or legs. Floor. You mean Floor? Yeah, floor. Yeah. Floor. Didn't even have a face. And you're like, oh my God, you're so adorable. James got needed to do we three that Grant Morrison.

[00:20:02] Drew: We three like

[00:20:03] Badr: sidebar that I, I wanna bring that up here soon. But the, the scene that really got me was, uh, when Lila gets shot, which for a moment, look at the high evolutionary, just had a pistol. I was like, this dude is powerful as fucking, he's got a pistol. When Rocket reacts to the death of Lila. Just that scream.

[00:20:18] Badr: I was like, damn, imagine like Bradley Cooper got in his bag, this fucking movie. Yeah. He did good.

[00:20:24] Drew: That that voice acting was incredible. That scream was incredible.

[00:20:27] Badr: That Scream was like, it, it hit me. I was like, man, it, I think he really a lot like, I was like, damn, we really just seen the death of someone in Horn.

[00:20:35] Badr: Oh,

[00:20:35] Drew: did they really shot that outer in front of Bradley Cooper.

[00:20:41] Drew: They're like, Bradley Cooper, this is gonna be your co-star. This is your co-star. This Otter take care of her. And they basically freaking Kingsmen like, put a bullet in this thing. You're like, goodness, great.

[00:20:52] Badr: Why? Yeah. That was, that's probably how you, you got that guttural screen. It was just very gut that, that was a moment that really got to me.

[00:20:59] Badr: You mentioned the Gamora and, um, Gamora and Star Lord Reunion. That was, that was something else. Yeah. I don't know. It's just a, a lot of just, this was a heavy movie, but. I don't think it was as heavy as a Black Panther too. I remember leaving, I remember us all leaving that just feeling drained and I think that's because it's, it had a real life, you know?

[00:21:18] Badr: Um, the passing of Chadwick Bozeman, I think that was, you know, the fact that there was, that real life tie made that movie heavy, but this movie was still very emotional. But god damn was it really beautiful and fun as fuck at times.

[00:21:31] Blythe: That's, I feel like that just all the credit to James Gunn, because that's his other, like peacemaker and I mean really peacemaker, I would say they do like the weird and the funny Oh, the well too, and to make it also super emotional as well.

[00:21:45] Badr: Mm-hmm. This felt as weird and, and. Just like crazy as like his early like film. This had the

[00:21:52] Drew: most graphic, this had to be the most graphic Marvel movie up to date. I would love

[00:21:56] Blythe: to see like the suits of Disney watching this just squirming in their

[00:22:01] Badr: chairs. Those creature designs were unsettling at times.

[00:22:05] Badr: Some of them looked cool as hell, like the, like the pig,

[00:22:08] Blythe: the turtle as it was

[00:22:09] Drew: transforming it. I was like, oh, this is like, looks like a little ninja turtle. That's cool. And then he just basically destroys it. You're like, holy shit.

[00:22:17] Badr: Yeah. Some of the, the violence in this movie was, felt like it. He kind of ha it felt like he had no, I guess restraint, like nebulous

[00:22:24] Blythe: snapping back after she had been crushed a few times was like her head snapping

[00:22:30] Drew: and yo, when her head snapped back I said,

[00:22:31] Badr: oh shit.

[00:22:33] Badr: You know what scene had me like, oh damn, is this the, I I almost wanted to double check like the ra is this rated R or something? Um, or a higher rate. It wasn't rate or, but a higher rating than the normal is when star, when star Lord, like basically crash lands back to earth. Using that dude as a shield on streak kills him.

[00:22:51] Badr: He's already dead. He dies from that crash. The impact, the, the impact on crash. But him taking like the knife out, the knife out and using, I don't know, it was something I was like, damn, that's

[00:22:59] really,

[00:23:00] Blythe: he dropped an F bomb too. I think you're only allowed one if you, if you do any more than one, you have to be rated

[00:23:05] Badr: r I felt like that was a waste of the F-bomb.

[00:23:07] Badr: I, I knew that rule when he tell to get in the fucking car, I was like, ah, you got to use it for another, but open the door. The fucking door. Door. There you go. Yeah. Okay. Speaking, uh, it sounds like we're we, we kind of want to move into talking about specific, the genocide.

[00:23:21] Drew: Can we talk about the genocide? No.

[00:23:22] Drew: Holy

[00:23:23] Badr: crap. I feel like a genocide at this point. Especially with like alien races. It is not new to Guardian. Oh yeah. Right. It does not matter. They've been kinda doing it. But to your point, I was surprised how fast it happened. Yeah. I was like,

[00:23:34] Drew: shit, holy fuck. He's like, we're gonna start over and try again.

[00:23:37] Drew: You're like, what the hell?

[00:23:38] Badr: All right. Let's talk about specific, uh, characters and I want to hear any, uh, key moments that come to mind. Kind of the first like word association or worldly scene, asso association. Let's start with, you know, I wanna start with the protagonist. Um, this time, let's start with the high evolutionary, uh, played by, uh, hopefully I'm gonna say this right, but, uh, Chuck Wie aui.

[00:23:59] Badr: I felt like this dude. I don't wanna compare the two cuz I mean, if I feel like it's two different ones, but fuck, I'm gonna go for it. If King the conqueror was supposed to be like the big M c u batty, did we talk about this in the Amen Review that we felt like King of the Conqueror. Like it, it was almost believable that he was like this big time batty, but.

[00:24:19] Badr: He got beat. It kinda, yeah. It kind of fizzled out towards the end, right? Like you were kinda like, eh, I guess maybe he's not, uh, maybe the next iteration, high evolutionary. No question about it. That was a scary motherfucker. He was at times,

[00:24:30] Blythe: especially when they peeled his face off. That was super disgusting.

[00:24:33] Blythe: But he was still, I guess, intimidating even in that moment.

[00:24:37] Badr: It's just how much he didn't care. Oh, yeah. Like just disregarded everything. Oh yeah. Genocide.

[00:24:42] Drew: Yo, my God. It's just the way that like, he kept treat, he didn't even acknowledge Rocket's name. It's whatever his, his, um, number was. Yeah, he just kept, you're right.

[00:24:52] Drew: He kept calling him 9, 1 37 or whatever, and uh, one 30 you. And then the fact that like, he's just like, I don't understand. He's like, I'm such a genius. I can make anything and I gave you this ability. And he's just like, that's what I'm saying. Like Rocket was, I think was at one point way smarter than him.

[00:25:11] Badr: I think he was just shocked that, how smart he was. But I think Rocket probably surpassed him, right? Mm-hmm. Like he was able to, I mean, hell, in that one moment, he definitely surpasses intelligence, and I think his reaction to it was really fucking scary. He, well, that's what he said. He

[00:25:25] Drew: was like, drunk, man.

[00:25:25] Drew: That's what he said. He, that's what I'm saying. He's like mad with power in the sense of like, he's like, how come I didn't figure it out? Like, you, you, you figured it out, but I didn't figure this out. He's like, what? And that's what like, really got him

[00:25:37] Badr: fucking off. I felt like if this movie was supposed to be about like, empathy and accepting, you know, others for, for who they are, he was the complete antithesis of it, right?

[00:25:46] Badr: Like, and I think that's what made him such a, a scary and intimidating and powerful villain was that he was the complete antithesis. And there wasn't, like, I, I don't think he had any redeeming trait, right? Like I think some of the best character villains in M Mc are always the ones that, you know, they say the ones that you can relate to somewhat or see like their point of view in some way.

[00:26:05] Badr: I don't think there was anything redeeming about him. I felt like Mr. Simmons, he was a Yeah. A straight mad scientist. And I think my only, the only, uh, ding I have against him is that I, I wish we could have gotten to see a little more of his background, because I wasn't, did they explain like how he was so powerful?

[00:26:23] Badr: Mm-hmm. And I wasn't. And he mentioned to, to Peter, um, he's not in the comics. Yeah. I'll be honest, going into this movie. And I think that's why I'm so impressed by, um, Chuck Woody's portrayal of high evolutionary. I think Drew might be able to agree, but in the comics, high evolutionary is one of the most boring, stale villains or characters in the comics.

[00:26:43] Badr: To me personally, like he's just really sci-fi, uh, like, I don't know. He's just like a bland scientist, obsessed with like, you know, um, evolution. And he doesn't really have any powers. I, I don't know, he hasn't been one of my favorites, but, This perspective on him just being diabolical and mad, I think was, could have only been possible thanks to Chuck Woody's, um, uh,

[00:27:05] Blythe: performance, kind of like Sid from Toy Story when he, the way he was manipulating

[00:27:09] Drew: all the toys.

[00:27:10] Drew: Oh, dude. Yeah. Damn. Th this actually does kind of feel like it, almost like a toy story.

[00:27:15] Badr: Let's go, let's go straight to the guardians then. Uh, thoughts on, uh, Peter Quill. Any, any noticeable, outstanding, uh, scenes that, um, that you, that you took with you?

[00:27:25] Blythe: I think for his relationship with Kamora, I just feel so bad for him that he's gone through all of this his entire life and, you know, he, she's right there and he can't do anything

[00:27:34] Drew: to get her back.

[00:27:35] Drew: This was a really nice different side of star. Lord I like, I think Chris Pratt gave, um, a, a, a new characterization to him, yo. Yes, because he like, I didn't feel like he was like this big bumbling idiot. Like, this is like the most exciting I got for Star Lord, because he was doing a lot of things like smart.

[00:27:52] Drew: This was like a different movie. Like he wasn't able, like he wasn't that same person. He was the last movie. So I thought that was really good that they gave him really good growth. Yeah.

[00:28:00] Badr: His character Arc was, was awesome in this, um, and man, I think this might be no, I, I won't say that. I think this might be among his best portrayals of the character outside of the first one, right?

[00:28:15] Badr: The first movie he establishes, like who Star Lord is, I think he gives him like a fresh coat of paint. I think this might be either the second or best betrayal of Star Lord. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I'd probably say the second. I would almost say maybe the second you could compete with is when, um, in, um, infinity War.

[00:28:30] Badr: Mm-hmm. When he's like, you know, losing his mind at

[00:28:32] Drew: Kamora. Yeah. And then especially like towards the scene where you get him and, and Grt and like him and grt just know exactly what to do. And that's what I like about it. It's like whenever they split up and they're with each other or they're with a different team member, they are so good at, um, they're, they're now a team.

[00:28:51] Drew: Like this is a very, very well said, well fully fleshed out team. You can put any two of them together and they're still gonna figure it out. Like, this movie really established why that The Guardians of the Galaxy, cuz there was a lot like, we gotta go rescue them. And then like the next scene was them coming in, they're like, we're gonna rescue you.

[00:29:07] Drew: Like, okay, now that we're all here, now we can fuck this

[00:29:10] Badr: guy up. Yeah. It was a very competent team. I think it, it just shows like the, how. Tangible, the growth of these characters has been throughout the, the course of the, not only the trilogy, but I think the M C U

[00:29:23] Drew: and they took Rocket out and that was another thing that was even crazy in the movie.

[00:29:26] Drew: They, they took, they took 'em out in the beginning of the movie. They did a lot. This was

[00:29:29] Badr: a, a large impart, flashback movie. Mm-hmm. Which I thought was like an interesting, like, vehicle to tell the story. Yeah. Um, drew, you brought up, uh, actually one of my favorite scenes with Star Lord, and that's him and group, uh, escaping, um, and taking and killing that dude, using that dude as a fucking crash pillow.

[00:29:49] Badr: I thought that was such a dope scene that they set it up with, you know, before they even leave the, I think before they even get to, um, the high evolutionaries layer, star Lord hands, uh, grouped the guns and he's like, you know what to do with it. And then for it to like have that big payoff. Yeah, that was an awesome, awesome scene.

[00:30:04] Badr: What the heck is going on? All right. I wanna save Rocket for last. Cause I feel like we all have a lot, a lot of things to say to about him, and I don't wanna, um, and

[00:30:12] Drew: I wanna make sure we give, there's one particular guardian that I wanna talk about that I think had probably the best growth.

[00:30:16] Badr: All right.

[00:30:17] Badr: Let's see if, uh, I'm just gonna go down the list at this point. Um, thoughts, uh, and scenes that come to mind for Mantis. One in

[00:30:23] Drew: particular is the fact that like, they, they try to, I don't know like how to describe her character cuz she's not an idiot, but she's very much, um, what's it called? Um, she's not gullible, but she's like a matter of a fact.

[00:30:37] Drew: She's like, she's literal. Yeah, literal. She's literal. She's not like a literal idiot. But the one thing that I like these things, they're about to like, kill them. And she's like, well, they're not at, at one point you find out like, they're not gonna kill us. They're just scared. And then she kind of like talks to them.

[00:30:53] Drew: Mm-hmm. And then I, oh my God. I love the fact that like, she was calling Drax an idiot. Oh.

[00:30:59] Badr: When she's trying to defend Drax to Nebula, she's like, he's not, he's stupid. You know? Basically like, yo, he's stupid. He's stupid, but we

[00:31:04] Drew: love Yeah, he's dumb. Oh yeah. And he's like, what? And then she just basically puts her hand on it.

[00:31:08] Drew: She's like, forget, forget. Yeah. And you're like, damn, you know that she's done this before. Like,

[00:31:14] Badr: I found it fucking hilarious how Manis fucks with Drax now. Because when in the first encounter it was mainly Drx, like taking shots at her. Like, you know, basically calling her dumb and you're ugly. But now Manti has her own unique way of fucking with them by, by controlling the minds.

[00:31:31] Badr: Uh, like that guard where she's like, you are madly in love with Drs. And like, how uncomfortable Drs. He's like, yes, DRS are destroyer. Dude, I thought that was, that was great. That was great. Are they in love? They kind of feel like it implies that, right? Like, yeah, maybe not in love. Like, because he kinda

[00:31:46] Blythe: drs kind of cried at the end

[00:31:49] Drew: because they've had such a, a, a long lasting relationship.

[00:31:53] Drew: A very intimate relationship. Right. Very intimate. She knows exactly how his, how he feels and his heart. Cuz in the second movie when they're sitting down mm-hmm. That he's basically like calling her an idiot and ugly. But he is like, but like in a nice way. He's like, you're, he's like, I'm not attracted to you cuz you're

[00:32:08] Badr: ugly.

[00:32:09] Badr: I, I see the romance angle, but also I, uh, maybe just personally speaking, I kinda also see them as like brother and sister in a way. Mm-hmm. You know, like, but I do see the, there is like that underlying romance, but because they

[00:32:21] Drew: bicker they're really good at bickering with each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:32:24] Blythe: Which I mean, she was definitely a way more aggressive.

[00:32:27] Drew: Yeah. Because I love when she's yelling at him for no reason.

[00:32:29] Blythe: She's like, not just her, she was yelling at a Nebula, Kamora or Nebula too.

[00:32:34] Badr: I had a note here. Um. When Manz gets her arm broken by Adam Warlock. Holy shit. I was like, that really hurt. You know, it's manz, it's like the nicest one on the team.

[00:32:44] Badr: So it definitely made me like wince, like oof. Uh, but I thought it was really cool when she healed her arm using that, that medpack shit was awesome. Mm-hmm. All right. We've already brought him up, so why not go to him? Uh, draxx. Oh man. What comes to mind for Drax? Strop, dude, he

[00:32:56] Drew: had so many good scenes. Like, to me, he was really, really funny.

[00:33:00] Drew: There was some other, the, the, all the kids are freaking out and he's able to calm them down. Yeah, that was really stupid, which I thought was really, really good. And then the fact that like, he starts speaking their language and they're like, you speak their language. He's like, you never asked.

[00:33:15] Badr: Yeah. You just assumed I was.

[00:33:16] Badr: Mm-hmm. You thought I was an idiot. Yeah. I noted that children's scene as well, because right before that scene happened, I had an internal monologue myself, like, when's the last time draft did something heroic? And him having that moment. And it wasn't like a big battle scene, really showed like the humanity of him and why he is like such an important piece of like the, the puzzle.

[00:33:37] Badr: Even though I, I still feel like he's kind of become a, um, a, a caricature of himself. Mm-hmm. Or at least in the second movie is when I started feeling like, yo, they are really leaning in on him being just like this dumb a one-liner. But that was a redeeming, uh, moment

[00:33:50] Drew: for me. And they're pretty sure they showed how powerful he was too, cuz he was going toe to toe with Adam Warlock for a minute.

[00:33:55] Drew: Mm-hmm. Like when they were fighting, I was just like, dang.

[00:33:59] Badr: In that scene when he's fighting Adam Warlock and he has that moment where he has a slow turn, like a slow motion turn. I think Adam Warlock was like coming at him and he just turns around and real slow, like, ah, that was good life. What about you?

[00:34:12] Badr: Any, uh, thoughts that come to mind

[00:34:13] Blythe: for drags? No, I mean, I, I, I think Drew kind of nailed it with, with everything he said and, and you as well. I, I think for him he's always just been just a short quip. There's not really, I, I don't really know too much about his backstory to care that much, yet his performance still makes me care about him, if that makes sense.

[00:34:33] Drew: Yeah. I mean, we're, we're no strangers to like all these wrestlers that are becoming like Hollywood actors. Mm-hmm. And the one thing that I always say is they're like, they say that Dave Petite Petista is the best one. They're like, he is the best. W w e wrestler Turn Hollywood. And I'm like, I gotta see, like, I gotta see it.

[00:34:52] Drew: Like they're just probably just hyping him up, but I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no. Watching them and seeing this, it's like, I don't know, like his drags are so good because it's not Dave Petista. Now, if it was the Rock, I'd be like, oh, that's the Rock doing a character. But the fact that it's Dave Batista. I, I really do believe whatever role he plays, even though like he has that look to him like,

[00:35:12] Badr: yeah, that's a good, I like that.

[00:35:13] Badr: Was James Gunn

[00:35:14] Blythe: a big wrestling fan? Is that why he is, I guess, able to coach these guys like a John Cena and No

[00:35:20] Badr: idea. I think he's just such a big nerd. I, yeah, I think he's such a big nerd and he probably is more than likely. Hmm. I wanna say that uh, Drax had a badass line in this movie. Uh, and I think it's when Gamora is like freaking out.

[00:35:35] Badr: Like why are they going back to save Rocket? You know, what are they thinking? Um, I don't have the full context, but I do have his line. He says, we won't think about it when we do it. Yeah. I thought that was such a hard bar because

[00:35:45] Drew: even, oh, they're talking about killing him when they're, when they're like, he's a viral when they can kill him and he's like, we're not gonna think about him when

[00:35:51] Badr: we, I thought that was a hard bar star Lord.

[00:35:53] Badr: Uh, uh, just to go quickly, back to star Lord cuz thinking about Draxx having like that intense moment, star Lord had some edge to him. This movie, I think this was the most competent he's been and most like. Badass, maybe most like lethal, killing people. Like out the gate in this movie, out the gate, he starts south, like drunk.

[00:36:10] Badr: And for some reason that threw me off. I was like, shit, he's having a depressed, like a, a, he's depressed. Mm-hmm. You know, like we've seen it in Thor and it was just sad. But with him it was like a little bit of like, it caught me off guard and you could tell like, he isn't the be fucked with this. That's definitely what I got outta him.

[00:36:26] Badr: All right. Moving on. And I, I, I've been waiting to talk about this character here. Nebula, who I'm gonna go say right now was probably one of my favorite characters. And that was not how she started out for me. I always thought she was kind of, I maybe one of my least favorite characters, if you would've asked me before, like this movie.

[00:36:42] Badr: No, I, I, I actually ended up really liking her in, um, uh, endgame. But prior, I cannot believe how much I like Nebula is what I'm getting at. What comes to mind when you guys think of Nebula and B Life? I wanna hear from you. Uh,

[00:36:53] Blythe: I, I definitely think that this was her strongest performance because it's almost as if we're seeing her become more human or identify with.

[00:37:02] Blythe: Maybe more resonate with more of her human side before it got all turned into machines. I did think her voice was a little forced at times through this movie. It just, what do you mean? It just felt, it felt very, uh, yeah, it just felt forced. Um, but I, the actors overall I, I thought did great. I mean, she conveyed a lot of emotions throughout the entire thing and I think she did pretty good, especially towards the end.

[00:37:26] Blythe: Like she has a nice little

[00:37:27] Badr: sendoff. Yeah. Nebula's upgrades look badass. The

[00:37:31] Blythe: arm that like does everything that

[00:37:33] Badr: awesome and I love that rocket. She credits rocket forgiven her the upgrades and when she first hears rocket's voice, cuz no one knows that rocket's alive, but when, when she hears rocket's voice on the intercom and she has that moment where she like, kind of puts her hand on her chest and kind of is like, whew.

[00:37:51] Badr: Such good acting. I mean, yo Fa, Karen Gillon, uh, amazing Nebula. Like I said, her growth, um, loved the upgrades. Her battle scenes were badass. I think she had some of the better, um, like c g I and special effects. Yeah, the c g I was incredible. Like how she's just like snapping herself back together. It is, it's, it was so cool to watch her real Jamie

[00:38:09] Drew: Tart this

[00:38:10] Badr: one.

[00:38:12] Badr: Drew, you wanna add anything to, uh, the Neite talk? No, I

[00:38:15] Drew: think you guys pretty much nailed it on it, the fact that like, this is a character that I didn't care about in the first movie, but now here we are. Like, I was like, oh man, if they kill her, I'm probably gonna be upset.

[00:38:26] Badr: And I like the, the, the, um, I guess the dichotomy between Kamora and Nebula have swapped places where Kamora, at one point was begging Nebula to just be sisters, like, you know, have a heart, you know, find humanity.

[00:38:39] Badr: And, and she was so filled with rage. But now Nebula seems more of like the levelheaded. She's not. She's moved past that. Like she hell in endgame, she literally destroys her old self. Mm-hmm. But now Gamora is literally her old self and, you know, hasn't had the same progression. And I think that that's such an interesting dynamic between the two.

[00:38:59] Badr: I like how they

[00:38:59] Drew: grunt to each other too. Like how they,

[00:39:04] Badr: yeah. Moving on. Uh, Grut thoughts on our guy Vin Diesel and really just Grut in general. I feel like we got so many versions of Grut yet again in this Spider Head group. Teenage a adult group, old ass group in the, in, in the ed credit scene. I wanted him in the outfit.

[00:39:22] Badr: Oh, that'd be so cool. Like, I just

[00:39:24] Drew: wanted him in the big outfit. Like even if you rip it like he had to go cuz like, yo, cuz it's Kaiju Group. That's what they called him.

[00:39:31] Badr: Kaiju Group. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kaiju Group. Drew, what did you think? I, I heard Blythe's opinion on this, but B Life, I want you to chime after Drew does.

[00:39:38] Badr: What did you think about Grut saying, I love you guys, that

[00:39:43] Drew: that took me off. Hey, let's weird. There's so, there's so many things that take you out. Like in that movie I could probably pick three things that like really take you out of the scene. That one was definitely the top one where I was like, oh,

[00:39:56] Badr: same here.

[00:39:57] Badr: But B Life brought up an interesting theory that kind of make, I dunno, kind of like massages it B Life, do you care Shit, do you remember it? So

[00:40:04] Blythe: when Goor spends the whole movie not able to understand Grut and she's super frustrated, I think kind of along with the audience, then towards the end she understands him because they're friends now.

[00:40:15] Blythe: So maybe that was a specific creative choice by, you know, the creative team to say now everybody is friends and so the audience including us in we understand group. Because I agree it took me out of it,

[00:40:29] Badr: but I do like that if that, that's a dope theory, right? You should, you

[00:40:33] Drew: should have said this in the beginning, like right before you started.

[00:40:36] Drew: He started your up. No,

[00:40:37] Badr: no, no, no, but well now you have the No, no, no, no.

[00:40:39] Drew: I talked about like before you go and watch the movie, you're like, all right guys, listen, before you guys watch this movie, no. Here's

[00:40:45] Badr: the thing, that'll never happen cuz the only people that should be listening to this is someone that's seen the movie.

[00:40:50] Badr: So you're also having that moment. But I thought that was, uh, a really good, uh, description. The only thing I'll, I'll say about Grut, I guess is just how he's a good shot.

[00:40:59] Drew: He was so

[00:40:59] Badr: cool. Yeah. His, uh, And I'm gonna just say, I'm gonna go and, and, and, uh, jump the gun. Favorite scene in this movie was probably that hallway fights.

[00:41:07] Badr: That might be one of the best fucking fight scenes in the mcu u the hall. Which hallway? With the guns? With all the hallway. The main one. The, the last one actually.

[00:41:14] Drew: The last one. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Words. It's like swear fucking Drs throws his sword in the guy's knee. He throws them up and then uses his sword to like basically play

[00:41:25] Badr: darts.

[00:41:25] Badr: There is so much going on and I love that every character has like their own moment, but group, like, just something about like anytime, like he extends his arm and it like slow and then

[00:41:35] Drew: rocket. And then rocket was like climb. Oh, the trackers? Yeah.

[00:41:40] Blythe: Yes, the rocket

[00:41:41] Badr: tracker shot. That shit was badass. That rocket was like, oh my god.

[00:41:45] Badr: Just using Bruce arm as a fucking conveyor belt to blast people. Um, and then even when Rock, uh, grew like was growing his branches inside one of those, um, what do they call them? The hell Spawns and he like put it inside of his nose and it basically exploded him from the outside in. Grew growing wings too.

[00:42:01] Badr: I'm sorry. Gru was actually had a lot of cool

[00:42:03] Blythe: as moments when he started having to grow his body back. That I was like, oh, that's

[00:42:06] Badr: how that works. Yeah, that was cool too. Like, like the skeleton, weird skeleton. The spider

[00:42:11] Drew: head. The spider head was the one that I was like, yo, they ripped his head off and then he is just like, gr You're like, GRU was kind

[00:42:18] Badr: of raw.

[00:42:18] Badr: That's

[00:42:18] Blythe: the tone for the film. Cause that happened like in one of the first very first

[00:42:21] Drew: scenes. They basically take Nebula and break her neck like 10

[00:42:24] times.

[00:42:25] Badr: Like Exactly. And she grew, you know, she popped locked. She popped and locked it right back. Real. All right. Who else do we need to talk about? Uh, let's talk about Adam Warlock.

[00:42:33] Badr: Drew, what did you think about Adam Warlock portrayed by how, what'd you think about Will Polter playing Adam War? You know,

[00:42:37] Drew: for somebody that's not in this movie for that long, the scenes that he had were very well, like well done. Like you, because the fact that you know that he's just a newborn and he is figuring things out, you're like, okay, this is pretty cool.

[00:42:54] Drew: Like, he had really good like idiot moments.

[00:42:57] Badr: I'm kind of hit or miss on him right now. I don't know where I land on him just yet, but there was a point in the movie where I was like, if you take him out of this movie, does he, does it leave a a vacuum? Does it, does it have any impact if you take him out?

[00:43:10] Badr: And I think the answer still might be no other than saving star Lord at the end, but I didn't hate him. He serve a certain plot point, like he kicks off the movie, right? Like the whole reason that they even have to save Rocket is because he came through, absolutely kicked their ass, put uh, put Rocket in the er and then he ends up saving star Lord.

[00:43:30] Badr: But I wonder if they're not gonna use him in the future. I just don't see what his, his role was in this movie, per se. He definitely felt like a character that maybe they had bigger plans for. And maybe they still do. I, I don't know. I'm still kind of iffy, but overall I thought it was just cool to watch him like power up and just be like this powerhouse, you know, like he kind of lives up to how powerful he is in the, uh, in the, in the comic books.

[00:43:51] Badr: Mm-hmm. Like what'd you think about Adam

[00:43:53] Blythe: Warlock? I honestly, I didn't really know too much about this guy coming into the movie. I had seen him a couple times, got him kind of mixed up with the other guy, Harry Style's character at the End of Eternal, I kind of got those two characters confused. Um, so I don't really have anything valuable to add to the conversation, but I think that's more of my point is that I don't really know what his point was.

[00:44:13] Badr: I felt at one point Adam Wallock being in the movie was a big deal and I think so much time has passed. Him just kind of being there was just like, oh shit, I forgot Adam Warlock is in this. And they quick did that quick explanation, like, oh, you took him out the womb too early. He's kind of like, you know, to Teresa's Point, nice way he is saying he's still figuring things out.

[00:44:31] Drew: You need a microwave with the popcorn bag. Not everything

[00:44:34] Badr: popped. Exactly. Thoughs. He wasn't like terrible. Um, but yeah, uh, I will say definitely cool to watch his fight scenes. Let's go to Gamora next before we talk about who I think is demanding our, uh, thoughts, opinions on Gamora life lead. Loved

[00:44:50] Blythe: her. Um, I, I thought that was really interesting to see the, the other side of her, like you mentioned earlier, I thought that was a really good comparison that she's now kind of taken on that Nebula type role.

[00:45:00] Blythe: Um, she was super intense at times. Almost a little too intense. Yeah, but out of, I've heard that the actress, Zoe, Zoe Zald, Donna Zaldana, she's done playing Gamora. Like she's told James Gunn, like she's, she's not coming back for this role. Like she's, she's done with Marvel. Um, so I think kind of had her, her, her end game, I guess for herself.

[00:45:23] Blythe: I don't

[00:45:23] Badr: blame her. I mean, it's probably, I would

[00:45:25] Blythe: imagine that a lot of these actors and actresses, like they're, they've played these characters for 20 years. Yeah.

[00:45:30] Badr: They're, they're, I got my check trying to retire 15

[00:45:33] Drew: years, I guess. Yeah. I just have to go to Comic-Con and then ComicCon,

[00:45:37] Badr: I think I maybe noticed it the most with gaura scenes.

[00:45:41] Badr: This movie had a lot of tight shots, like really up the camera was up in their face, like to get the facial expressions, the emotions like clearly across. And I think of Gamora, um, be because I noticed that that style of shooting kind of early on with all these tight shots and like claustrophobic and just, you know, you really got that raw energy Gamora to life point, felt scary at times.

[00:46:05] Badr: Like her yelling at, you know, Peter trying to like let him know like, I'm not the person you think I am, or, you know, just, um, How Antis saving rocket she was, you know, it's like, damn, Zoe is killing it. Having to play the same role, but like an earlier version or, you know what I'm saying? Like she's playing, she's still playing Gamora, but it's an earlier version and I thought she nailed it.

[00:46:27] Badr: Like this felt like such a drastically different Gamora than we got towards like the end. Like she clearly does not give a fuck about Rocket. She almost gave up Rocket. Like, yeah, take the badger. You

[00:46:37] Drew: know, she's so rough around the edges, but you can kind of see like with her facial expressions, like she doesn't say much, but when she's like looking and she's making like her, like you're like, oh, she actually cares about these people, but she's not gonna say anything.

[00:46:50] Drew: You can see her thinking. Yeah. And that's one, like, one thing I like really appreciate, especially with the Rocket stuff like, um, with Drax and them leaving and I was like, oh, well, draxx knows that. Uh, gours on the ship. So rocket's in good hands. But that wasn't the case in the sense it was like, oh,

[00:47:06] Badr: shit.

[00:47:07] Badr: And once again, I feel like it, it goes back to like subverting your expectations. Like you're expecting certain characters to die. Maybe, um, you might've expected like a happy ending for, uh, Peter Quill, but her going back and being happy, I like that Gamora didn't leave like as a loner or you felt sorry for her.

[00:47:24] Badr: It's like, no, she, she, she has her family, she's got her fresh new start. She's not, she's not the person like Peter expected her to be, and that's okay. And I thought that message was kind of cool that it doesn't, that person also has their own life. And you know, like I thought that was an interesting ending for her, that she, she's smiling at the end of it.

[00:47:42] Badr: She's surrounded by people that care for her. So you don't really feel too bad about Gamora. I don't think I really felt too bad for anyone by the end of this. And I think that's what made that ending so nice was everyone got a good sendoff and you didn't feel too bad. You felt like everyone went through a healing process.

[00:47:57] Badr: Is is what I'll say about it. Last, maybe not last minute, at least. I think I might be missing a character too. Uh, let's talk about, like I said, who I think was the Man of the Hour completely stole the show for me. Rocket Raccoon. Drew, what comes to mind when you think of Rock Raccoon? Is there one particular scene that like really stood out to you?

[00:48:16] Badr: I felt like he had a lot, but Oh.

[00:48:18] Drew: Um, when you find out like how deadly he was, like it just showed how smart he was. The, the fact that when they killed his friend and then he immediately grabs the gun and he just basically just puts three bullets in all three of those guys. Like, doesn't even have to figure it out like this entire time.

[00:48:34] Drew: Like, I like the fact that like, he's way smarter than you think. Like, I like, I like the fact that they, they made Rocket probably one of the most smartest characters in the entire universe. But he doesn't, he doesn't show

[00:48:49] Badr: that to you. Yeah. He hides it with all that, like that comedy, that, that rough, that rough edge,

[00:48:54] Drew: everything.

[00:48:54] Drew: He hides it cuz like, the one part that I like was when he was like, oh, I'm getting the fuck outta here. And he just starts grabbing everything and he's like, what is this? He's like, oh, this is, this is the key that's gonna get us out. And then he just swipes it. And then you're like, oh damn. Like he, like he knew from the get-go like how to get out.

[00:49:09] Drew: He's just kind of just trying to figure it, he's trying to figure it all out at the same time. You are

[00:49:13] Badr: literally watching the origin of from, you know, raccoon spec, you know, run of the mill raccoon to rocket raccoon. That whole scene of him, like losing his friend, attacking a high evolutionary, I I had that noted too, that that whole scene was epic.

[00:49:28] Badr: Watching like this creature like just learn and evolve. Mm-hmm. Like just mentally too, like how quickly he fucking picked shit up. And I love that he still kept that, um, he learned how to hack. Uh, yeah, drew, I'm, I'm right there with you. Watching him like slowly become a genius level character was awesome cuz then it makes moments when you go back and watch or think about his interactions with.

[00:49:49] Badr: Any of the other geniuses in the movies. Even better, like when he talks to Ironman or makes jokes about his suit, I think he also talks about, you know, anytime he picks up a gun, like you're like, damn, of course he knows what that is, even though he, he says like a line or something, a rude remark, like, you know, it makes him more believable now when you go back like, nah, this motherfucker can go toe to toe with any of these fucking big brains here.

[00:50:11] Badr: Life. What about you? Anything that come to mind for Rocket? I think the

[00:50:14] Blythe: moment when he saw the word raccoon on his cage, that's, I think that that was, that, that moment. Plus at the end when he says his name, he's like, I'm Rocket raccoon. I thought that that was, yeah, that was like really cool tie. He used to always, you know, be upset when people would call him a raccoon or call him, you know, whatever.

[00:50:33] Blythe: He doesn't know what he is Rabbit or right, and, but he sees it on the cage. I think that seeing it on the cage plus the, the moment when he says his full name, I thought was really cool. Really nice moment.

[00:50:43] Badr: Yeah. I'm trying to see if I had anything else for written for Rocket. I guess it was just a fake out that that really had me like, oh my God, if I cry in this theater right now, at this moment, I was ready to say bye to Rocket.

[00:50:57] Badr: And then to Drew's point when that fucking Otter put his hand out and said, not yet. And then Rocket comes back and everyone's hugging him and Gru's hugging him the roots. I was like, damn. Like, I wish they would've just stayed on that scene just a little long. If they would actually, if they would've stayed on that scene just a little longer, it would've been waterworks.

[00:51:16] Badr: And you got such a different, uh, performance from Bradley Cooper for this rocket. Like yeah, you still got him snarling and saying smart ass remarks. But for the most part, like seeing his, or you know, like the fact that they can tell you his origin this late in the game and it still feels like fresh and welcome then still powerful.

[00:51:34] Badr: Yeah. Excellent. So good. Um, do you guys wanna say anything about any of the, uh, ancillary, I mean, if we go through every character over here all night, um, any comments on characters like, uh, Cosmo or the little girl? Uh, Crain. No, the little dog. Oh, the, uh, alien dog for, don't know. I dunno. What kind of, yeah.

[00:51:52] Badr: Dunno what the hell. You know what it looks like. It's really cute. It looks like that. No, fa what's his name? Milton in the Shachi movie. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm talking about? He kinda looked like

[00:52:02] Drew: that with a face. Yeah, yeah. With a face instead of a butt. Like, you're like, oh, this is his face.

[00:52:06] Badr: I'm gonna say Crain. When he has his moment of redemption, when he sees, um, uh, uh, Al Rucker character, like, I can't think of Yondu. Yondu, thank you. When he sees Yondu, he is like, you know what, what did he say? Believe in your heart, boy. Or, yeah, I aim with my heart. Say it with your heart. Something like that.

[00:52:21] Badr: Um, when he has that moment, That fucking whistle arrow is the coolest shit. Like, bro, it does not

[00:52:28] Drew: stop being cool. I forgot in the beginning when Crackly tries to use it on Adam Warlock and he is like, who threw the

[00:52:37] Badr: at

[00:52:38] Drew: whistling? And that girl next to him

[00:52:42] Badr: is freaking out.

[00:52:46] Badr: I forgot all about it. So good. You have funny scenes when, um, when Drax is telling, uh, Peter the analogy and he nails it and man is like, yay. And then when he starts going, she's like, no, no, no, no. I thought that was great.

[00:53:01] Drew: Oh, and he is like, yo, I know the difference between a metaphor, a euphemism, and all that stuff.

[00:53:06] Drew: Oh, so good. He

[00:53:06] Badr: does not clearly. All right. Um, so I said something about Craig and

[00:53:10] Drew: soundtrack. What'd you think of the

[00:53:11] Badr: soundtrack? Drew? You beat me right to it. You know, I've been waiting to talk about this soundtrack. I had, I don't know what my expectations were. I think the, the trailer, I wanna say the trailer had that acoustic version of, of creep in the trailer.

[00:53:24] Badr: I, I think, um, but, uh, fuck. I'll just cut to, to chase soundtrack. Fucking awesome. This movie was so stylistic and had such different, uh, looks to it that every single time they had a, a song play, incorporating it into the movie, I felt was like, real seamless and smart. E e I mean, you could probably say like, they kind of got a little gimmicky with it, like always having a headphone in or the way they'd cue it up.

[00:53:49] Badr: But I was here for it, man. Like, just like if it played through the speaker or he put on a headphone, I just, I was here for it. Um, and I wanted to know, aside from just your overall thoughts on the soundtrack, was there any particular song that you liked with a certain scene? At the very end. I

[00:54:07] Blythe: think that first song in the, in the Guardians movie, I mean, I know this movie at the Callback.

[00:54:11] Blythe: Yeah. It's sort of the

[00:54:12] Badr: callback, I think the fact that Rocket was like, this one's a special one. Yes.

[00:54:16] Blythe: So I think that to me, that nothing beats the First Guardians soundtrack. This one was very good, but that first one is very, very tough to beat. Oh yeah. And if you watch, there's this a show on Vice that's been doing like these behind the scenes in, in Marvel, and they talk about how James Gunn really like fought to get music as a pivotal part of the First Guardian's movie.

[00:54:38] Blythe: And to see it sort of play this really strong role in the third one and the final one, I, I, I think was a really nice sendoff

[00:54:46] Drew: star Lord's house. Looks like a Walkman. When, when there's that scene where he's Gamora puts him in the bed and they pan out from outside, it looks like a Walkman from the way that the, the window is to like how he's set up.

[00:55:00] Drew: So I was like, oh, I wonder if this is like on purpose. The fact that you made the, his,

[00:55:06] Blythe: it seemed like a lot of those shots were very intentional. And I think if you, if you look at all of the Marvel movies, I, I think this is, is safe to say that this is the best trilogy

[00:55:16] Badr: a hundred. Yes. Sorry. I remember being like, admit about the second one, but the first, and this one was so strong at, I

[00:55:23] Drew: wants the second one.

[00:55:24] Drew: And I was way too harsh on it that I was like, man, I don't give the second one enough. Uh, credit. And the second one actually is really, really well done. That you get a lot of good, uh, DRS

[00:55:34] Badr: acting as well. All right. I'm gonna go through just some of my, I, I mean, obviously I was taking notes on all of the music scene cause every single one felt like a music video, especially when they go to that initial planet.

[00:55:47] Badr: The, the, uh, the corporations, uh, bases and whatnot. And those, you know what I'm saying? When they go to the, the corporation, the first planet,

[00:55:54] Drew: oh, it's like the, it looks like a butt.

[00:55:56] Badr: Well, it looks like a pie, like a, a meatball. It looks like

[00:55:59] Drew: a Rick and Morty. It looks literally like something from Rick

[00:56:02] Badr: and Morty.

[00:56:03] Badr: Okay. I forget what song was playing during that one, but I, I immediately started thinking, this feels like Nickelodeon is trying to do an m t V video. You know, like really kind of crazy, like bright colors and just weird matter around them and on that. But on, on the topic of that weird meatball planet, uh, Nathan Fillion.

[00:56:23] Badr: Oh yeah. I came here. It was great. Nathan Fillion and all those dudes in that armor looked like they were an armor of meatball. He was so great. It was so weird, dude. It was such a, that whole scene and planet was a weird, he's like,

[00:56:35] Drew: I got a guy too.

[00:56:39] Drew: I love when he's like, I got

[00:56:40] Badr: a, everything he does annoys it. Yo special. Oh, and then, um, I guess I, I finally got to see what everyone was all mad about. Uh, James Gunn's wife, Jennifer Holland having. Uh, I thought it was just gonna be a cameo, but I was like, oh, she's got a pretty long roll and she gets shot in the knee.

[00:56:56] Badr: Drew, when she got shot in the knee, I don't know if you know this, but you were laughing Your fucking assholes so hard.

[00:57:02] Drew: Her scream was incredible. I couldn't figure out why I knew her. Like, I was like, why did she look so familiar? She looked like, uh, like a who, like a little Whoville

[00:57:11] Badr: girl.

[00:57:12] Drew: Yes. I mean literal.

[00:57:15] Drew: But yo, when they shot her, that was so funny.

[00:57:19] Badr: Here are the, here are the key songs that stuck out to me that I was like, wow, if this was the music video for it, it's, you know, they gotta release a guardian to Galaxy Music before it. I don't think I've ever enjoyed Dog Days or over by Florence and Machine more than that fucking moment.

[00:57:35] Badr: At, towards the end. Yep. That's one of my favorites. It got group and Rocket. It got everyone dancing. So, and I mean, towards, as the, the final song after they had like this. Long emotional fucking mission. Such a perfect sendoff. So

[00:57:51] Blythe: a little history lesson with that song, that song was like, made it big in the movie.

[00:57:55] Blythe: Eat, pray, love, and Eat, pray Love was a book that was turned into a movie. I saw this movie at a very pivotal moment in my life, so it really like stuck out to me. Julia Roberts one, right? The Julia Roberts where she's, you know, she's supposed to get married and then she goes off instead and just travels the world and like sees, finds new life, finds new love, all that good stuff.

[00:58:14] Blythe: But that song is a very key moment in that movie. So the fact that it played at a very key moment of almost rebirth for a lot of these characters in this movie was very dang symbolist. I definitely was

[00:58:24] Badr: getting symbol symbolist. Symbolism. Yeah, I was definitely getting emotional and the fact that we, you know, seen it in, uh, and I'm or not, I'm Dolby Dolby Cinema.

[00:58:32] Badr: That shit was like extra crisp. Um, what else do I got? I love hearing. This is the Day performed by the, the, that is a song that I, I was introduced to by a friend working at a warehouse. And it was like one of them really hard warehouse jobs, and we would play that song like on Fridays as like, you know, we're almost there.

[00:58:52] Badr: This is the day that your life will surely change. That that song played when The Nowhere, when Cracklin shows up in the nowhere and they were like getting the can I think either when they were getting the canon ready. No, it was when they were getting the cannon ready, which is cool as fuck. He's like, Canon one, two or, or whatever he says, like the cannon keeps extending three four.

[00:59:11] Badr: Yeah. I thought that was dope. And I, if I, if I'm not mistaken, it also plays when he has his moment of redemption and the whistle is flying or rocket comes back, it's one of those where it's like, this is the day that their life has changed. I thought that was awesome. And then last but not least, hearing, uh, that song, the reasons, the re Yeah, that was really good too.

[00:59:32] Badr: Again, I don't have, uh, I don't have the what scene that correlated with, but it's such a, it's a great fucking song. Is the soundtrack already out? It is absolutely out. And I wasn't gonna buy it like in, in CD or vinyl, but now I'm kind of thinking about it.

[00:59:45] Blythe: Just download it on Spotify for god's

[00:59:47] Badr: sakes. All right, last finale.

[00:59:49] Badr: Sorry, I got one more. And I, because it's at the very top. You know, it's kind of hard to remember the, like, the beginnings of movies cuz it's, it's definitely so long. But that creep acoustic version, the way that movie opened up with Rocket. Just Walk. Something about Rocket enjoying the movie or just playing the mo music was really Yeah.

[01:00:07] Badr: Like

[01:00:08] Drew: fucking mesmerizing. Yes. Him singing along and walking around. You're like, oh, okay. He's accepting of our culture. Wow.

[01:00:18] Badr: Well, technically he's a North American raccoons. It's his culture. It's his culture too. Hey

[01:00:23] Drew: guys, when you guys see a trash pander tonight, give him a piece of pizza.

[01:00:27] Badr: But when you look at the juxtaposition between how that movie started with creep acoustic version, everyone's just in a rough spot.

[01:00:34] Badr: Like Peter is fucking drunk as hell and, and Rocket's having like, his moment to the very end of dog days are over. I, man, that soundtrack was just so pivotal and such good. It, it was such a good, it was kind of its own character at, at some point. You know, it just, it, it was there and you could feel it. All right.

[01:00:53] Badr: Um, any closing remarks or, or last scenes, any scenes we didn't talk about that you guys wanted to bring up before we, we started getting this, uh, plane landed.

[01:01:01] Blythe: Any annoying parts cuz I have one. Ooh, hit it. Ooh, the dog. Cosmo. Cosmo the bad dog. What things you like about Cosmo? I just thought it was very overly done.

[01:01:14] Blythe: Okay. With the bad dog part. No, there were better dog characters in this movie than the actual dog.

[01:01:20] Badr: I guess I didn't mind Cosmo, but it, it did feel like very blatant set up where it's like, bad boy. Yeah, you're a bad boy. And I was like, all right, so we're gonna get a scene where, you know it's gonna redemption.

[01:01:30] Badr: She's a

[01:01:30] Drew: good girl. And then

[01:01:32] Badr: we get it. We drew was there. Drew was, did you have any annoyances or any minor gripes? Um,

[01:01:40] Drew: I wanted to see Star Lord's mask one last time. Like, I would like to see that whole, oh yes, the, the final of that. And then I, just a minute and then see Grut, if I could just see Grut inside that, um, like gardens, the gala costume, I would've been okay with it.

[01:01:54] Drew: But other than that,

[01:01:55] Badr: everything was okay. Okay. Those are super minor grips. I like it. I really don't think I have much gripes for this movie other than it's like fucking with my heartstrings, like, goodness gracious man. It was

[01:02:06] Blythe: a really good balance of weird and emotional ties and funny ties.

[01:02:11] Badr: Yeah, it's a damn good looking movie.

[01:02:14] Badr: Damn feel good movie. Um, be ready to be in touch with your emotions.

[01:02:19] Drew: I don't think they're ever gonna give, um, the CGI to like the Academy Awards at Bradley Cooper for playing this freaking rac goon. I don't, I look some sort of like mocap award. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:02:31] Blythe: I hope they filmed him. Well. He was acting like the voice acting.

[01:02:35] Drew: I wish they did that a lot too. Like, I think in the first movie they have that, but I wish there was like a more in depth of like, him, like getting and saying his lines because I went to see exactly how much he emotes that

[01:02:46] Badr: I'm waiting for. The official, official, like Disney Produce, M C U Doc, this vice series is really fucking good.

[01:02:54] Badr: But they don't really have a lot of behind the scenes or input or interviews with like the actors. And I feel like if Disney is smart, they're, they've got that in the works or they've recorded enough behind the scenes that they can release one. I know, I'm sure in a lot of these Blu raisin. Um, and DVDs.

[01:03:11] Badr: They've got the bonus content and all that. But I wanna see, like, I wouldn't mind seeing hours of Bradley Cooper, uh, voicing Rocket. It still kind

[01:03:20] Blythe: of feels like relatively unknown that he's the voice of Ro uh, of Ro Rocket.

[01:03:26] Badr: I wanna go back and see what press runs has he done? Cause I think you see the typical, like James Gun is really heavy on these press runs.

[01:03:34] Badr: Peter, Chris, I'm sorry, of course. Chris Pratt, of course it Zoe. Always Al Donna. I don't know if I've personally seen a lot of, um, yeah, same. Um, uh, Bradley Cooper. Cooper. All right. So, uh, let's go ahead and land the plane. Let's go ahead and give our final, let's try to give, uh, uh, our final score. Let's try to give our final thoughts, closing remarks.

[01:03:52] Badr: This is the 32nd M C U film, the second movie of phase five. Overall, um, what do you guys think about Gardens Galaxy Volume three?

[01:04:00] Blythe: I loved it. I think it's the best trilogy out of all the Marvel movies. I think for my creative. Perspective. There's a lot of drama that's going on with Disney properties right now where a lot of it looks and feels and sounds the same.

[01:04:14] Blythe: And this one was kind of a, a really good break from that. And I think that a lot of the creative decisions that were made in this movie were because of that is almost like separating themselves from the rest of sort of just the monotony, I think, of what's going on with the M C U. Mm-hmm. With a lot of their Disney plus shows and movie properties and things like that.

[01:04:34] Blythe: Um, but yeah, I, I thought it was incredible. I thought it was really weird and fun and funny and emotional and, uh, really good escapism. And I think that's all you can ask out of a movie. And this, this really hit it out of the park for all three

[01:04:47] Badr: of those things. Well said Drew. I also agree with what she said.

[01:04:50] Badr: You're like, ditto. Ditto and ditto. Ditto Dito. Ditto. Drew. Where does this rank among your M C U films and movies? Dude, I don't know.

[01:04:59] Drew: Like that's a, that's a very loaded question because the fact that is the 32nd film. Yeah. It's a lot to think about of it. So it's like, all right. Like as far as like as if, if we're talking about like, this year, I'm definitely putting in the, in the top.

[01:05:11] Drew: And that's the only reason because the Spider-Man movie hasn't come out yet. Okay. So that's the only reason why, but like, yeah, this movie did a really good job. It's volume three. It, it told what it needed to tell. It's a very good, it's a nice little handshake. Goodbye. We'll see you

[01:05:24] Badr: later. Nah, dude. This was more than ha This was a hug.

[01:05:27] Badr: This was a strong hug. Goodbye. It was a hug, A cosmic. Is it the best

[01:05:30] Blythe: one out of phase four and five? No,

[01:05:33] Drew: we got Spider-Man three and we got Black Panther two.

[01:05:36] Badr: You don't think that this movie competes or is better than

[01:05:39] this?

[01:05:40] Drew: I have to see it at least one more time before I can make all that. Like, like the thing, like this movie was fun and great, but like, Yo Spider-Man was like 30 years

[01:05:48] Blythe: of making, I don't, I don't think you can count Spider-Man.

[01:05:50] Blythe: No, no, no, no, no. Because that's, Sony has such a, a high creative decision making with that.

[01:05:55] Badr: We are counting it. It's phase four. It's phase four.

[01:05:57] Drew: All right.

[01:05:58] Blythe: Outside of Spider-Man, and they killed Aunt May you have to take away Spider-Man because it is a Sony property.

[01:06:03] Badr: Oh, no, no.

[01:06:04] Drew: It's fa it's listening. Did you guys buy the bucket?

[01:06:07] Drew: If you guys bought the bucket, then you guys really like this movie. Did

[01:06:11] Badr: not all, that's my, my, that's my major gripe this movie is that this special edition popcorn tin was 50 fucking dollars.

[01:06:18] Drew: 50 fucking dollars. It's very, very powerful. They're raking

[01:06:23] Blythe: it in on those platforms.

[01:06:25] Badr: Not for modern Milligan this time.

[01:06:26] Badr: All right. I've mine every single other one for $25. I,

[01:06:28] Drew: we saw a dude with two. Oh, we did two. Remember that guy that was carrying two? I'm trying tell

[01:06:32] Badr: you. He doesn't gonna flip it. He's gonna flip it. It's just too, anyways, anyways, I'm gonna go on record and sing. By the time, I think by the middle of this movie and closer towards the end, I, I already knew I like this movie.

[01:06:45] Badr: I was like, unless they completely screw up the landing. Um, this movie is probably the most fun, most enjoyment I've had for just specifically talking about M C U movies since probably Spiderman No Way Home. Yeah. Like I don't think I had one. Like I don't really have much gripes for this movie. I don't know.

[01:07:06] Badr: The

[01:07:06] Blythe: Dog is my only gripe.

[01:07:10] Badr: Cosmo was a good boy dog. Cosmo was a good boy. I, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say that I think this is probably my second favorite one out of the phase four and five releases it. I think Spider-Man, no way Home. I just can't get past how sentimental Spider-Man is to me. So it's always gonna be number one.

[01:07:24] Badr: And it was a great movie, but compared to my former number two, I think was Wakanda forever or, or actually he was Strong Chi. I think they, they tied, this one probably solidifies. Number two for sure, and I'll go ahead and leave Shachi and Black Panther as a tie. Any differing opinions? Anyone disagree? Are we bringing in the

[01:07:43] Drew: TV shows?

[01:07:44] Badr: Oh my God. I hate when people ask the TV shows. Dang, you have tv, but

[01:07:48] Drew: you have Marvel

[01:07:49] Blythe: intertwined though. Dang.

[01:07:51] Drew: I'm just trying to stir the potty anymore.

[01:07:54] Badr: What came out for phase four TV shows? Uh oh damn. That's midnight. Yeah, I feel like I'm gonna keep it low key. I can't answer that right now. I plead the fifth right now.

[01:08:04] Badr: All right. Gimme some time. I see Wanda Vision is on here. I see low keys on here. I

[01:08:08] Blythe: think the comedy was there with, with this movie, so that's

[01:08:11] Badr: why I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I still think Guardians is better to, I'm still holding it at number two. Yeah. Even with the movie, even with the TV series, if you throw on the TV series, then I would just put Loki at number, like three or four.

[01:08:22] Badr: All right. That's what I'm gonna say. Yeah.

[01:08:23] Drew: Why so?

[01:08:26] Badr: Cause you threw me for a loop during the TV series. You made it more challeng. Are

[01:08:29] Drew: we including the TD adaptation comic books? High end.

[01:08:34] Badr: This is silly. All right. Um, any la I'm I'm going through my notes one last time before we wrap. Uh, I think I, I'll, the only I will say is, and maybe this is for our, our comic, um, our comic book friendly, or advocates and, and listeners, is Drew brought up a book by the name of, uh, we three by Grant Morrison.

[01:08:56] Badr: And that is something that I learned from watching this Vice M C U series is how much of an inspiration we three is was for James Gunn going into Guardians one off the bat. He, he noted it being a big influence, but it was Abnet and Landing's, guardians Galaxy Run. And we three. And I remember when watching that episode of the Dock thinking, huh?

[01:09:18] Badr: Okay, I guess I kind of see the we three similarities of Rocket being experimental on, but they never really got into it. Boom. This movie is absolutely the We three comic book series. So just quick little recap. We Three is an phenomenal comic book about, um, animals that were, uh, uh, used for testing. They Military?

[01:09:37] Badr: Yeah, military weapons, military weapons, military weapons. So they become military grade weapons, um, you know, part robots and they go on the loose to earn their own freedom and it's, Gorgeously drawn by Frank quietly. Um, and if you enjoyed this movie and kind of those underlying themes, but you wanna see the tables turn and you want, if you wanna see more, uh, creatures like Rocket, winning back, the freedom by being bad asses.

[01:09:59] Badr: We three is the shit. Yeah. And if you wanna cry, we Well said. If you also want to cry about, uh, torture animals. Um, yeah, we three as well. And that's how we end the show. This movie had them rescuing kids and animals. I was like, how much more heroic could you be than that? Like, and misfits too. Yeah. It's like, uh, these guys are fucking

[01:10:21] Blythe: heroes, man.

[01:10:21] Blythe: And, and so what's next as far as MCU u All right.

[01:10:26] Badr: Marvel phase fives.

[01:10:28] Blythe: What, what? I know Lowkey, but I don't know if that's like a summertime thing or going

[01:10:32] Badr: off top of my head. I believe it's supposed to be the Marvels. No, that's November now. Oh, okay. Yeah. There's something in between. I'm looking at it right now.

[01:10:38] Badr: I don't know it off top of my head now. Oh yeah. The Marvels comes out in November. That'll be the last movie, M c u movie we get this year. And then as far as tv, uh, we get Secret Invasion in June. Loki is, I think, scheduled mid 2023. And what if, and Ironheart and the others have all become T V D because of the recent, um, uh, uh, Disney layoffs and things.

[01:11:02] Badr: A lot of those, uh, phase five TV shows and Disney plus shows, um, they got more there. Rider Strike too, right? Yeah. They're writer. There's writer Strike as well. Yeah. So good for them. No, for sure. Get their money. They're asking for more money out of like these billion dollar corporations. Yeah,

[01:11:15] Blythe: but they're asking it while j j t is kind coming

[01:11:18] Drew: out.

[01:11:19] Drew: It's, yeah, we need more data. Like we have 500 machines that'll do your job. You

[01:11:25] Badr: wanna see how well that works? It'll be interesting to see it nonetheless. It doesn't

[01:11:28] Blythe: be good. It just, my, my theory is that this is a, gonna lead to a creative revolution where you kind of are ham estranged right now with a lot of these properties.

[01:11:37] Blythe: They only invest in things that are nostalgic or part of a larger franchise. I think because of chat, g p t, like technologies and, and AI technologies, that we are going to see a creative revolution by the folks that have these ideas. They just didn't have the skill to execute them yet. Not, not anytime soon, but within the next five years, I'm gonna be in

[01:11:56] Drew: the corner screaming about robots, rats.

[01:12:00] Drew: They try to take our jobs

[01:12:03] Badr: life. That is really well said. And I, if I was, if I was a listener, curious to hear more of your thoughts on AI and in that world, where could I go? Ooh, this is me signing you off and also giving you a shameless

[01:12:15] Blythe: plug. Thank you. You can check out, uh, all of my social content and I cover a lot of this stuff on a podcast called Everything Is Logistics and you can find all of that.

[01:12:22] Blythe: Everything is logistics.com.

[01:12:24] Drew: And you can find me in my only Fann page.

[01:12:31] Badr: That's funny. All right, listeners, that's what we got for you today. As always, uh, just because the episode ends doesn't mean the conversation has to end. If you guys want to join in and share your opinions, if you wanna call us out for something or if you feel like we missed something so glaring, please feel free to chime in right, right into the show at the short box [email protected].

[01:12:52] Badr: I know I have been slacking on the emails, but I'm gonna get back to it here soon. Uh, please, uh, send us, um, yeah, send us something to read, uh, in a future episode. Write us in or shoot us a quick in short, uh, DM on Instagram and Twitter. I love when you guys send in compliments like, bro, life killed it as always, life killed it.

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Badr Milligan

A project manager, podcaster, and a professional moderator all rolled-into-one. Co-founder of the Jax Podcasters United Group. Host and producer of The Short Box: A Comic Book Talk Show. Resident of Springfield, but not the one on TV.

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